The MacRumors Show: Giving Vision Pro Another Chance

Friday October 31, 2025 1:50 pm PDT by Hartley Charlton

On this week's episode of The MacRumors Show, we dive back into the Vision Pro with Apple's new M5 model.

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Apple's new Vision Pro headset features the M5 chip for better performance and efficiency, 10% more rendered pixels, a refresh rate of up to 120Hz, longer battery life, and an all-new counterweighted Dual Knit headband with a focus on improved comfort. Arriving 20 months after the original model, the Vision Pro now runs visionOS 26 and offers widgets, hands-free scrolling, enhanced Mac Virtual Display mode, significantly improved Personas, a broader selection of immersive content, and more.

We discuss how much better the new version really is and whether it's finally time to give Apple's spatial computing device another chance. The MacRumors Show has its own YouTube channel, so make sure you're subscribed to keep up with new episodes and clips.

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Top Rated Comments

fanboy05

6 hours ago at 10:01 am

I love my AVP. I have used it nearly every day since getting it. Between media and the MacBook screens and my almost non stop travel use it has been well worth the money. For most people the cost is prohibitive and even if the cost was more in line with an average potential user the weight is the second issue for people. I am lucky and the weight has never been an issue thanks to the cap set up that removes the weight from my face entirely. AVP really is a great device. I hope they continue to work on it!

Score: 7 Votes (Like | Disagree)

twintin

7 hours ago at 09:15 am

Can someone watch this and resume it here lol

Best product since sliced bread. No competitor even come close. ??

Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)

Corpuscle

4 hours ago at 12:30 pm

social stigma are going to hold it back for a while,

Huh? What stigma??? The only "stigma" is the one that only exists in the minds of most MR posters who love to propagate Apple hate.

Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)

Morgenland

3 hours ago at 12:32 pm

I really enjoyed your conversation. I’ve owned the AVP since it first hit the European market, and I’ve never once thought of it as a bad investment. I’ve also never felt the need to discuss it with people who imagine everything without actually owning it—those who equate “saving money” with experience.

Once, after work, I let a colleague try it on in a café. She was thrilled, and we ended up having long conversations about the future possibilities in fashion and interior design. Happiness isn’t something you need to impose on others, and those who endlessly debate the “perfect price,” like a carousel stuck on repeat, often can’t let themselves be captivated by an amazing piece of technology—they’ve already dismissed the experience.

The conversation itself was excellent. The younger British colleague has clearly matured—he summarized points clearly, thoughtfully, and convincingly. I also appreciated how the usual social complaints about “the price is too high” gave way to genuine respect—for Apple, the developers, the improvements, and even the sales team. Conversations like this, between thoughtful, mature men, are a real pleasure to listen to from start to finish. Thank you for that.

Score: 4 Votes (Like | Disagree)

Miamtl

7 hours ago at 08:55 am

Can someone watch this and resume it here lol

Score: 3 Votes (Like | Disagree)

d___d

4 hours ago at 11:47 am

Tried it again today with the Dual Knit Band, and was seriously impressed. The weight distribution is so much better! The OS is looking great, and they can’t even demo some of the most compelling features like Personas or SharePlay in store. Cost and social stigma are going to hold it back for a while, but what a compelling glimpse into the future…