The MacRumors Show: iPhone 17 'Slim' Rumors

On this week's episode of The MacRumors Show, we discuss Apple's new iPad Air and iPad Pro models, the latest rumors about an all new iPhone 17 "Slim" model, and the newly announced Sonos Ace over-ear headphones.


We talk through first impressions of the new ‌iPad Air‌ and ‌iPad Pro‌ models, including their pricing and the state of the iPad lineup as a whole, giving attention to the reduced price of the tenth-generation ‌iPad‌, which now costs just $349, which is $250 less than the starting price of the ‌iPad Air‌.

We also examine the recent wave of rumors about the ‌iPhone 17‌ "Slim," an all-new iPhone model expected to sit above the iPhone 17 Pro and ‌iPhone 17 Pro‌ Max in Apple's 2025 smartphone lineup with a higher price tag. The device will reportedly feature a 6.55-inch display, a significantly thinner design with an aluminum chassis, an "A19" chip, 8GB of RAM, a rear camera array relocated to the center, a 24-megapixel front camera, and a 48-megapixel telephoto camera. Simultaneously, Apple is expected to discontinue its "Plus" model to make way for the "Slim," although it may not actually be called this when it debuts in the fall of next year.

Meanwhile, Sonos just announced its "Ace" over-ear headphones with active noise cancelation, soundbar integration, a more lightweight design, and longer battery life, so we look at how they compare to the AirPods Max. The MacRumors Show has its own YouTube channel, so make sure you're subscribed to keep up with new episodes and clips:

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Top Rated Comments

vegetassj4 Avatar
19 months ago
[S]Pimpin'[/S] selling iPhones aint easy

iPhone Slim...he's a baaaaad....shut your mouth




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Score: 9 Votes (Like | Disagree)
jonnysods Avatar
19 months ago
I'm going to skip 17 and 18, I hear the 19 will be the best iPhone at that particlar point in time. It should also come with a faster processor and improved camera. Yes I sound like a professional analyst, but I really am untrained and am just an enthusiast.
Score: 8 Votes (Like | Disagree)
sniffies Avatar
19 months ago
Any word on iPhone 18 though?
Score: 6 Votes (Like | Disagree)
TinyMito Avatar
19 months ago
What about iPhone 19?
Score: 5 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Plutonius Avatar
19 months ago
My opinion only but I don't care if the iPhone is a little thick. What I care about is the iPhone size and I have no desire to purchase an iPhone that is bigger than the SE or mini form factor.
Score: 4 Votes (Like | Disagree)
jmgregory1 Avatar
19 months ago

That's just a poor interpretation.

iPhone Slim and iPhone Ultra are the same product. Just different sources for the same rumor from different perspectives.

One look at the design achievements of the new iPad Pro tell you everything you need to know. "worse materials" and "easier to bend" are laughable. What Apple achieved with the iPad Pro in terms of thinness and weight and strength all at the same time is incredible.

iPhone "Slim", which most definitely is a nickname for the design goals, will feature the same new aluminum central rib design as the new iPad Pro to enable a thinner and lighter design, will use denser batteries to maintain the same battery life as a current Pro model, and have redesigned rear camera modules and a smaller dynamic island. And of course, and all new price point.
Agreed. Seeing what Apple was able to achieve with the M4 iPad Pro will undoubtedly translate to other devices. There is typically a segment of the population that wants, and can afford, to buy a more premium version of just about every product, so why not offer versions that fit this segment in iPhones, iPads (M4 iPP nano), MacBooks, AirPods, Watch (Ultra was exactly this), etc.
Score: 4 Votes (Like | Disagree)